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New pole shed Advice wanted
I just received the building permit for my new pole shed. I've had the level site prepared for a year or so with a good sand base and 4" of gravel on top of that. The building will be 30'x60'. Approximately half of it is planned to be my up-north retirement greasemonkey shop (~8 yrs). The other half will either be unheated storage or if I really dream hard, a separate wood shop. I have enough wood shop machinery in my basement right now to take up much of what's left. And the two shops would need to be separated to function well. I've planned a 10' door on each gable end and two 36" access doors but other than that it's an open canvas.
I've built a couple of houses so I should have the skills. Building a pole barn looks like mostly grunt work so I will probably hire two or three guys to help and generally be the "ramrod."
Does anyone have any words of wisdom out there? Is there something you did that you liked or didn't like? Any features that looked good and had to be preplanned before the initial construction?
Thanks in advance,
Dave
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JasonR: I won't be pouring the floor for a year or so but I will certainly think about the in-floor heat. It makes alot of sense in a shop with a concrete floor. I've got to make a rule for myself until then, and that is not to store anything in there that isn't on wheels or on a pallet for easy removal when it's time to pour.
earthwks: My house has a 12/12 pitch roof too. But there's a big difference between shingles at 45 degrees and slippery steel. I'll stick to the normal 4/12 trusses for this job. Do the palm nailers work well for the large polebarn nails? I've seen them on TV but have never used one. I've got a Paslode gas powered framing nailer but that's limited to 12 penny nails so I don't think it will be of much use on this project. I should get started building a pole with a hook on top to set the trusses on the posts. It would attach to my FEL. I suppose it would have to reach about 15' high to grab the peak of the truss.
Art: Do you remember the size of the pads you poured? Were they sitting on fairly fresh fill? I always thought that sand was one of the best bases for a lasting foundation.
Dave
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Jason, Thanks for the link.
Murf: I have a 100 amp service to my shop now at home. I put in a commercial style breaker box in my house and 100 amp breaker off the house to the shop. So far for the work I do (large compressor, stick and wire feed welders, exhaust fan, grinders and lots of lighting) it has been enough current so I'll probably do the same thing up north. The power pole and transformer is equidistant from the house and shop up north so if someday I need more, I'll put in another meter to the shop.
Even though I hadn't planned on plumbing the building your thought of putting rough plumbing in place is a good one and relatively cheap. Having some actual plumbing would be better than the funnel in the corner with the outlet sticking outside of the wall. 
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"100 Amp main? Depending on your machines and if by chance you were to happen to have a couple of friends over or your shop were to become a business I rather have a little larger service. In my part of the world a 200 Amp service is standard. But hey we like Air Conditioning, and total electic here. "
The main will be 200 amp to the house with 100 amps from there to the shop.
Screwing down a metal roof will be a new one for me. I'll be sure to use self tapping screws. Our local home centers (call Menards) started out building pole barns back in the 70s (maybe earlier). They do a pretty good job making sure you have the right materials for the job.
Dave
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Woodie,
You're suggestion is a good one. What you're thinking of is a more permanent building. At a minimum I will price the materials out. I'm sure I would like it better in the long run.
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